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Bearded Dragon Lethargic -not eating/basking

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Julee1971

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It is a 75 gallon tank the bulb is a 150 watt, it is a clear bulb, the picture i showed you was when his lights are off for the night. I have a digital thermometer. Where he is laying in the picture actually gets to 110 degrees. The uvb is a T5 10.0 24 watt and you said calcium with D3 or without D3 3-4 times a week but once daily? And Herptivite once a week? And superworms are okay daily? Hmine does eat his greens if mixed with superworms but i sometimes have to sneak a piece while he is chewing. But yes my tank is a 75 gallon with a 150w basking light and a 10.0 T5
It is a 75 gallon tank the bulb is a 150 watt, it is a clear bulb, the picture i showed you was when his lights are off for the night. I have a digital thermometer. Where he is laying in the picture actually gets to 110 degrees. The uvb is a T5 10.0 24 watt and you said calcium with D3 or without D3 3-4 times a week but once daily? And Herptivite once a week? And superworms are okay daily? Hmine does eat his greens if mixed with superworms but i sometimes have to sneak a piece while he is chewing. But yes my tank is a 75 gallon with a 150w basking light and a 10.0 T5
It is a 75 gallon tank the bulb is a 150 watt, it is a clear bulb, the picture i showed you was when his lights are off for the night. I have a digital thermometer. Where he is laying in the picture actually gets to 110 degrees. The uvb is a T5 10.0 24 watt and you said calcium with D3 or without D3 3-4 times a week but once daily? And Herptivite once a week? And superworms are okay daily? Hmine does eat his greens if mixed with superworms but i sometimes have to sneak a piece while he is chewing. But yes my tank is a 75 gallon with a 150w basking light and a 10.0 T5
Ok the Temp is way too Hot. What is the height of your tank in inches; if its 18 inches tall get a 75watt if 24 tall then get a 100Watt. At his age being an adult the temp should be 95-98 mine like it at 96 most do as adults. So switch that bulb asap. Of the 75 is not hot Enuff switch to the 100Watt but 75 will work. Your UVB is 10.0 T5 but what do u mean by 24Watt? No such thing just order amd make sure it’s the Reptisun & replaced every 12mnths. It looks rather dark in his cage. The calcium powder is called REPCAL blue lettering white container with D3. Yes only once per day 3-4 times per week & Herptivite on the non calcium day once per day/once per week. Yes superworms are good u can do 8-10 per day or 5 and some large crickets & Dubias are good too. And try the staple greens/veggies I recommended and try feeding him from your hand when u introduce the new ones like butternut sqaush, yellow squash, snap peas, dandelions, mustard/collard greems, endives & some red bell peppers. Cut them to size not bigger than the width between his 2eyes. Also his stool is it solid/firm/oval like a cats? If it’s green, brwn or balck its good with white urates. If it’s runny, smelly/soft or diahrea he needs a stool sample at the vet asap which is $50 & means he has a parasite called Coccidia which is a nitemare to rid of & deadly if not treated asap. That’s why his tank has to be clean always & poop picked up and cleaned instantly. Hence why I use white terry cloth towels they poop I remove and place fresh ones. Clean is Key to prevent bacteria. Also, at nite close all the blinds and cover only the sides of his tank with pillowcases so it blocks any potential light they sleep better with dark & quiet.
 

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Coccidia isn't the only parasite that leads to runny poop. They can also get pinworms from crickets and there's a couple other wormy things. If you notice any signs of parasites move him to a tank with newspaper or paper towel substrate and quarantine him from other animals.
 

Julee1971

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So I have a 1 year 4 month old dragon, Pippin. I believe Pippin is female, though I don't know for certain. Tank is about 70 gal, warm/basking side stays around 90, cool around 60-70. Currently she is underweight, and has a very hard time with food intake. Unfortunately our vet is closed currently due to a Covid-19 outbreak, so I can't take her in to get looked at. She has always had a problem with eating but recently it has become little to no food intake. I suspected for a while she might be burmating, but upon offering food about once a week (dried mealworms, as keeping crickets has been hard with such a sporadic diet) she would sometimes eat absolutely ravenously. Now she won't eat anything at all. I don't quite know if this is burmation or a health problem, because she has had a similar problem the whole time I've had her.
Pippin has always had problems with eating vegetables. Every time I try to break her into them, she just will not do it. She will go a long time without eating, to the point where I get concerned about restricting further, and leave the veggies sitting there every time. I try a variety (yellow squash, butternut squash, green beans, broccoli, kale, collard greens, carrots) and nothing sticks, even when I remove protein from her diet and restrict to just vegetables. She will only eat crickets, dried mealworms, and hornworm, so crickets have made up most of her diet. She will no longer get up to chase the crickets herself, and when she does try, she has trouble catching them as though she cannot see them or is too tired to catch them.
She also doesn't bask anymore, starting around July (5 months ago). She will sit under a shade I have on the basking side of the tank and sleep all day. I've been ensuring the temperature is at least 80, usually around 90F. When I thought she might be burmating was when she moved herself under a hide on the cool side of the tank. I moved her once to weigh her, and she never went back under the hide, she just stayed where I placed her under the warm side hide. She also does not sleep, she remains awake .

Im concerned about her health, because I 1)cannot tell if she is going through burmation 2) am concerned about her eating habits overall. What can I do to help her? How can I get her energy up enough for her to be an active, happy, healthy lizard?
Question do you have a CLEAR Basking Bulb??? Not a colored one? Use a clear basking bulb ONLY by Zoomed the temp in the HOT side should be 95 to 97. "90" is way too Low and the middle of tank/warm side about 80-85 and cold side should be 75-78. Focus on the hot side for now. A clear bulb NO colored or coiled bulbs EVER; it destroys their vision. 2ndly, Do you have a REPTISUN UVB 10.0 T5 the long tubular bulb? The one u order should cover 70 percent of the tank. Without proper heat or UVB, they cant eat, move, poop, absorb Vitamin D from the UVB & breakdown the calcium thats needed for their bones. Raise the HEAT ASAP, Remove any sand or colored/coiled bulbs & Get the REPTISUN 10.0 T5; & it needs to be replaced every 12 months. Also, NEVER EVER feed Dried anything; STOP the mealworms asap. Horn is good 2-3 per week cuz they are high in fat, Super worms are good & Crickets/Dubia Roaches are Great. The veggies/greens u are doing are great. Remove the carrots and do little to no kale. Lastly and most improtantly; Is there sand in the enclosure? If so, remove it; it impacts them along with the mealworms. Use white terry cloth towels. LAstly, is her poop runny? Or solid/firm? She may have coccidia if its runny/soft; this is caused by dirty encloures & not removing the poop asap; accidental licking, etc. VET asap for 2 doses of Ponzuril if Dr knows what he is doing and burn all items in cage/cage with boiling hot water, GOOGLE IT. She alsoneeds a warm bath to poop; and get rid of all the waste in her tummy so do that to get her to poop. 15min lukewarm, dechlorinated water. Buy REPTISAFE if you dont have a filter system at home but for now just rub her tummy downward and place her in the warm bath to poop. If you have had no UVB or Improper UVB; she needs a VET ASAP for calcium shots due to potential MBD & Get the heat up & order from amazon the Reptiusn 10.0 T5.
 

Julee1971

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Coccidia isn't the only parasite that leads to runny poop. They can also get pinworms from crickets and there's a couple other wormy things. If you notice any signs of parasites move him to a tank with newspaper or paper towel substrate and quarantine him from other animals.
Pinworms are normal; every beardie has some in them thats what all of my reports from my vets say for all the beardies we rescue say!! The most common parasite is COCCIDIA & it takes alot of time & work to kill it. I have done it multiple times and I am OCD!!! It takes 30PLUS days & its like LICE in the TUMMY. Throw out hammocks, use paper towels, tery cloth towels for substrate, remove Poop ASAP, burn and wash all and anything a beardie has touched or walk on including your clothes, etc!!! 1 part bleach & 10 parts water spary the cage let it sit then wash it off in hot boiling water numerous times to remove all the bleach. CLEAN, CLEAN CLEAN!!! to the MAX
 

HoomanSlave

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Pinworms are normal; every beardie has some in them thats what all of my reports from my vets say for all the beardies we rescue say!! The most common parasite is COCCIDIA & it takes alot of time & work to kill it. I have done it multiple times and I am OCD!!! It takes 30PLUS days & its like LICE in the TUMMY. Throw out hammocks, use paper towels, tery cloth towels for substrate, remove Poop ASAP, burn and wash all and anything a beardie has touched or walk on including your clothes, etc!!! 1 part bleach & 10 parts water spary the cage let it sit then wash it off in hot boiling water numerous times to remove all the bleach. CLEAN, CLEAN CLEAN!!! to the MAX
...Calm down a bit, please, and I advise you stop throwing around mental disorders as a way to emphasize your cleaning habits.

Pinworms are not normal in anything. If you notice them normally in your beardies, they're probably getting it from the crickets and spreading it to each other. Burning things to clean them shouldn't be necessary unless you weren't cleaning them properly prior, it's more hygienic and sensible to spray them down well or bake them and quarantine them for a few months. Why do you have to turn every thread into an argument? People come here for help, not to be judged and hated on.
 

Julee1971

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...Calm down a bit, please, and I advise you stop throwing around mental disorders as a way to emphasize your cleaning habits.

Pinworms are not normal in anything. If you notice them normally in your beardies, they're probably getting it from the crickets and spreading it to each other. Burning things to clean them shouldn't be necessary unless you weren't cleaning them properly prior, it's more hygienic and sensible to spray them down well or bake them and quarantine them for a few months. Why do you have to turn every thread into an argument? People come here for help, not to be judged and hated on.
YEs they are HOOMAN!! Here is a sample of a Fecal test result from a reptile vet!! Call them & argue with them!! Coccidia is the common deadly parasite., especially with people who don’t keep the Emclosures clean & who use carpet; u wipe the poop and what about the germs on that carpet do u wash it daily? There ya go; Unclean habitat, Food left over nite and poop that they step and walk on and sits for hours on end causes bacteria!! Why would u give False Info? I am here to Help for the Beardies well being.
 

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Broly

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YEs they are HOOMAN!! Here is a sample of a Fecal test result from a reptile vet!! Call them & argue with them!! Coccidia is the common deadly parasite., especially with people who don’t keep the Emclosures clean & who use carpet; u wipe the poop and what about the germs on that carpet do u wash it daily? There ya go; Unclean habitat, Food left over nite and poop that they step and walk on and sits for hours on end causes bacteria!! Why would u give False Info? I am here to Help for the Beardies well being.
Where does it say normal?
 

HoomanSlave

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At the bottom on parenthesis: Pinworms are Common. Vet said they are Normal all Beardies have them.
MBD is common but that doesn't mean it's okay or normal.

"Pinworm infections may cause a number of health problems. Weight loss or failure to gain weight, diarrhea, mucoid stool, and prolapse of digestive tract tissue out of the cloaca are all possible complications of pinworm infection. If an animal has a “small” infection then becomes otherwise ill, the stress that pinworms put on the animal’s system may exacerbate other conditions."
"Control:
1. Animals that have been identified as pinworm-positive should be quarantined from the rest of the reptiles/amphibians in the home to prevent cross-contamination. These animals should be tended to last during the day. Thorough hand-washing between cages is required, although wearing personal protective gear such as disposable gloves is preferred.
2. The enclosure should be cleaned thoroughly and regularly. Non-porous cage materials like plastic, glass, acrylic glass, or screen are ideal for reptiles and amphibians as they are easy to clean and disinfect; you do not want cage walls and floor to potentially hold onto microscopic pathogens like with wood, melamine, and tile.
3. Pinworm ova are resistant to most disinfectants. Cleaning cages surfaces with hot, soapy water will dislodge the ova. Cage materials and decorations that cannot be cleaned effectively should be discarded.
4. All animals in the collection should be treated concurrently for pinworm, as animals that are not displaying symptoms of infection may be carriers.
5. As parasites can shed intermittently, it is strongly recommended to have two to three fecal exams test “negative” before considering an animal to be parasite-free"

Better question: Why would YOU give false info?
Everything you have said has been corrected by hobbyists on a certain website, I can post the images (names blurred out) here if you'd like more evidence.

-Companion Animal Hospital
 
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