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Only you guys would think this is as interesting and cool as I do. This afternoon I got my super worm shipment and I noticed I had a few without the shell. I love feeding them to Luci so I gave him 2 and he ate one and then broke the other in half. I tried to get him to eat the rest of it and he didn't want it so I threw it in his salad bowl and left. Well tonight I was putting him in his tank and the super worm part had grown it's shell back! I guess I didn't think that it would since it was a dead half of a worm.
 

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I ordered 1000. I realized that I don't have enough bedding for them so I threw in some egg crates and a bunch of mustard greens. Hopefully they will eat the mustards and climb on the crates and not eat each other until I can get some more bedding for them :confused:
 

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Yes, nothing like seeing their eaten up corpses! LOL Sadly mine had to stay at the post office over the weekend, since my hubby's store is not open on the weekends, and that's when they decided to deliver. SMH, they were not shipped with any food, only in newspaper...I had a lot of dead worms and some ate up newspaper. Sigh. They have potatoes and carrots and oats, but still keep munching each other.
 

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That stinks. I want to order silkworms and butter worms but the place I was going to order from sends USPS, I'm really nervous that I'm not going to get them. I like the place I order the supers and horn worms from because they send UPS and I live a block from my office so we share the same UPS man. If I'm not at work my driver will bring them to my house and if i'm at work, he will ask if I want them there.
 

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Oh, that's nice! I have to have everything delivered at hubby's work, cause no one can find my house for some reason. I think I need to stick with UPS or FedEx. No Saturday deliveries then. LOL Where do you order your worms from?

Gosh, my daughter's gonna have to do an awful lot of chores to earn beardie food money!
 

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I order my hornworms and super worms from Great Lakes Hornworm. They are in Michigan and I'm in Chicago so it's close and they ship UPS. I order my crickets from a place called Josh's Frogs, they are also in Michigan but they send their crickets from a place here in IL so again, close by. I was looking at Red Earth Worms for silks and butter worms they are in ID and they ship USPS. I'm thinking worms, will be in containers so it might do okay with USPS their won't be any escapes.
 

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I believe Red Earth Worms is also one of our sponsors.
 

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Thanks. I'm seriously considering starting a dubia colony, even though my hubby is totally against roaches, and there is a humongous ick factor involved. I just keep seeing the $$ growing larger.
 

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That was interesting and creepy lol! I bought plain oatmeal when I ran out of the bedding and was waiting for more to be delivered. It was chunkier but did the trick for the few days I needed it.
I actually broke down and brought home 100 dubia from the last reptile show we went to. They creep me out too much to start trying to raise them though. It's been almost a month and I still have them in the container they came in, I just pour a few into a dish in Precious's tank when it's feeding time. They're fast! One got out of the dish and Precious really had to move to chase it. She ran around after it for about a whole minute with her tongue sticking out, it was hilarious! There's a white one in the bunch too, it's actually kind of pretty in a way. It fell out in the dish one time but my son insisted I put it back and not feed it to her yet.
 

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I am using oatmeal too and I only had one container. I'm going to go to Whole Foods today and see if I can get some wheat germ. Yes roaches are FAST! I got just a few different sized ones last summer for Dexter and Luci to try and those suckers were too fast for them! Dexter likes a bug that can move a at a slow pace towards her so she can just stick her tongue out! There's a reptile show this weekend but I have no way to get to it, which might be a good thing.

I'm going to try to breed super worms. I think I can handle the beetles. The first two years after we moved into our apartment, we had these little beetles that would show up ever June for a few weeks. They would be along the baseboard, I would just pick them up with a tissue and smash them or vacuum them up but it was just something we got used to.
 

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The superstorms are not too bad, except for the cannibalism. LOL. I have a group that just curled into their c shape and another group started. When that group turns into c's I'll start another. They are so slow. LOL. My mealies are quickly becoming too many for just our two leopards. I already have about 25 or so pupated (is that the right word?) and getting ready to turn into beetles...if I don't kill them. Last night I had a dream that some geckos got out and had hundreds of eggs in my dresser and lotsa dubias were running around. Ummm, I think I may be doing too much research?
 

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when I had my bigger girl, I used oatmeal and fresh veggs to feed the supers and cleaned every 2-days and they last for at least 2-days and that was 250 of them hope this helps some-river-7
 

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when I had my bigger girl, I used oatmeal and fresh veggs to feed the supers and cleaned every 2-days and they last for at least 2-days and that was 250 of them hope this helps some-river-7

I found that my grocery store sells wheat germ in bulk for cheap. So I've been using that as my substrate for the feeders now. Feeding them the stems and ends from the veggies I cut up for the dragons and making sure to clean the old veggies out so they don't get moldy.
 

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About how many superworms do you feed your dragons per day? We just took a rescue dragon in and the only thing he will eat is superworms. He was eating romaine lettuce, corn and strawberries where he was being kept along with meal-worms, but now he won't even eat those items. I don't want to feed him too many worms but it is all he is eating. He will not eat crickets, or any of the other salad items good for beardies. We think he is around a year old because the woman who rescued him had him 9 months. He was in an outside pen with 5 other rescued beardies. I think he is home sick. He is only 12 inches long including his tail. He lost the tip of his tail due to a fight. He is very friendly and likes to be held.
 

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About how many superworms do you feed your dragons per day? We just took a rescue dragon in and the only thing he will eat is superworms. He was eating romaine lettuce, corn and strawberries where he was being kept along with meal-worms, but now he won't even eat those items. I don't want to feed him too many worms but it is all he is eating. He will not eat crickets, or any of the other salad items good for beardies. We think he is around a year old because the woman who rescued him had him 9 months. He was in an outside pen with 5 other rescued beardies. I think he is home sick. He is only 12 inches long including his tail. He lost the tip of his tail due to a fight. He is very friendly and likes to be held.

The general rule is to feed as many as they want to eat in 15 minutes. Usually mine stop at 8 sometimes they will eat 12. If they eat 12 I usually stop feeding them. Lettuce and corn and meal worms are real bad things for them to eat. We can't even digest corn, imagine how hard it is for them to and lettuce doesn't have any nutritional value. Check out this link of good foods to feed http://greathousefarm.com/Greathouse-Reptile-Nutrition-List.pdf Lots of beardies refuse to eat salad but you still need to offer it every day and they usually will come around and eat a few pieces (usually when you aren't looking) I have a female dragon that is over 2 1/2 years old and she is a stubborn salad eater. I find what gets her interested is dusting the salad with her multivitamin.
 

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The general rule is to feed as many as they want to eat in 15 minutes. Usually mine stop at 8 sometimes they will eat 12. If they eat 12 I usually stop feeding them. Lettuce and corn and meal worms are real bad things for them to eat. We can't even digest corn, imagine how hard it is for them to and lettuce doesn't have any nutritional value. Check out this link of good foods to feed http://greathousefarm.com/Greathouse-Reptile-Nutrition-List.pdf Lots of beardies refuse to eat salad but you still need to offer it every day and they usually will come around and eat a few pieces (usually when you aren't looking) I have a female dragon that is over 2 1/2 years old and she is a stubborn salad eater. I find what gets her interested is dusting the salad with her multivitamin.

Thank you. I will try dusting the salad with the multivitamin. We tried putting the worms on the salad but he just eats the worms.
 

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Thank you. I will try dusting the salad with the multivitamin. We tried putting the worms on the salad but he just eats the worms.

That's what Dexter does when I put worms in her salad. I don't know if you've ever used horn worms but they sometimes will grip onto a leaf and the dragons will eat the leaf along with the worm because they are so focused on the worm itself. Hornworms are like crack in my house LOL!
 

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Dont go too crazy with the wheat germ though as its very high in phosphorous and also very high in phytic acid. Phytic acid tends to bind with minerals like calcium, so can actually counteract some of the gutloading process.
 
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