sick baby beardie

[kasandra sorel]

hi my name is kasey,
i am posting because my baby bearded dragon wich cannot be no more than 3 weeks old is not acting normal. i am a very expirienced with bearded dragons. we have 4. she is a hypo translusent on paper towels for now. she has a reptisun uvb uva bulb and her basking light is 107. i got her a week ago and she only has eaten 5 extra small dubia. i have been giving her critical care which she does eat. she wont drink fluids. i bath her daily. i gave her some diluted gatorade, acidophilus, calcium, multivitim, and medication to boost her apatite but it does not seem to be working. she wont bask for very long and is very lathargic. she also has a hard time keeping both eyes open at once. please help. when she eats or drinks the little that she does she seems to act like she is hiccuping.

 

[gilliesexotics]

Hi Kasey, some dragons need a little time adjust to there new surroundings. Im not saying this dragon is not ill but it is also possible it is still adjusting.

1. What is the dragon doing to make you think it is lethargic?
2. What size cage do you have?
3. Where did you buy the dragon?
4. When soaking your dragon. How long? Is the water warm? Have you dip your finger in the water then rub the water on the lips?
5. Whats the cool side temps?

Pictures>?

 

[kasandra sorel]

she is in a ten gallon bought her from blood bank dragons 85 cool side yes 15 min soak and yes to water on her lips i believe i posted all symptoms in my post and about her eyes she doesnt move and will not bask like this cents i got her she was too small to ship 4 inches long 5.1 grams

 

[gilliesexotics]

Eating and being lethargic typically dont go together. If you are sure this dragon is sick. Next step would be to take a fresh stool into a vet to be checked for parasites.

 

[Germ]

A 10 Gallon enclosure is much too small to be able to provide the proper heat gradient required. 20 Gal minimum. No place to get out of the heat should it feel the need in a 10. Where exactly & with what type of thermometer are you measuring your temps? There is no way that you can have a 22F difference in temps within the few inches available in a 10, it is virtually physically impossible.

 

[kasandra sorel]

she will only eat critical care and even yesterday she didnt want that. thebulbis only a 40 watt bulb and it reads 101 5 inches away rom it on that side. on the other side it reads 87.4 and i am using a zoomed digital thermometer. she ate 2 roaches today and i dewormed her and gave her meds for coccidia

 

[gilliesexotics]

Have you tried appropriate sized crickets? I will admit that most dragons go nutts for roaches but you may try a different feeder.

What did you de-worm her with and what was your course of treatment?
Also, what drug are you using for the coccidia and course of treatment?

 

[kasandra sorel]

no i have not. panacur once and for coccidia toltrazuril once as directed

 

[gilliesexotics]

Id try crickets, you never know

If your dragon has been tested positive via float or smear. Unless if the numbers were insignificant. Treating once will do absolutely nothing. Each parasite has a life/reproductive cycle. Most drugs are designed to kill adults, not the eggs.

Im going to guess that as directed means you have been to a vet...
Your vet needs to consult with another herp vet for instructions. There is a vet network but i can not think of it for the life of me right now. You paid for a vet to do this right. Id call them and tell them this is not a correct way to treat parasites and you need enough of each drug to do this properly.

 

[kasandra sorel]

no i did not cunsult a vet i deworm mine once every 6 months and to every new dragon i get. i need to give r the panacure again tomorrow and as far as the coccidia i am not following up on because she is so small she is only 4 inches. i have another one comming in hopes it will perk her up and maybe the other will teach her how to eat. i am not taking her to the vet any time soon because she is so small. the last dragon i took to the vet was bc she had a uri so i know what that looks like and at this point anymore medication could kill this little girl

 

[gilliesexotics]

Are you floating your own to be sure you are even combating parasites? At 5.1 grams...What dosing strength / product strength are you going by with the toltrazuril and panacur? Im sure you are diluting to work with 5.1 grams. What are your methods?

Id strongly recommend consulting a vet. To combat parasites correctly you have to follow within limits of weight x dosage strength / product strength with the proper regimen.

 

[kasandra sorel]

for the medications i do not know at the moment i am not home. panacur .01 mL and coccidia was .04 for every 10g of body weight so i gave her .02 it is safe to use panacur and extremely hard to overdose them with it. even if she doesnt have pinworms the panacur wouldnt do her harm. i give it to mine once every 6 months to be safe. she drinks water now only a lil tho. but that is awsome. today i am going to try chicken baby food with bee pollen. i get all my products from beardeddragon.co

 

[gilliesexotics]

Thats good to hear she is drinking. You are correct. Panacur is hard to over dose but again one dosing is not going to do anything.

I would need to know product strength to know if the dosings are correct. I believe baycox only comes in 50mg strength. So unless what you have is diluted. You are giving way too much on the standard 5mg dosing strength.

 

[kasandra sorel]

it is 10 percent 25mg

 

[gilliesexotics]

Im sorry i have never seen that before. 2.5% is 25mg baycox.

Ill offer it again as advice. To properly treat your animals you will need to take them to a vet and ( IF your animal has parasites) follow the proper procedure on handling parasite loads. Most regimens consist of a consecutive day treatment, then a rest for egg development (typically 7-14 days depending on parasite) and then follow up treatments. Im no vet but have quite a bit of experience handling parasites from wild caught animal rehabilitation. I do my own floats and treat accordingly. The shot gun method you are following is not the best for the animal/s.