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[PatsyB]

As far as the T5/T8 debate goes, the T5's are a bit more expensive where the T8's can be used in any normal household fixture. The one benefit of the T5 over the T8 though is if you are putting it over the mesh top of your tank the T5 penetrates the mesh more and thus your dragon doesn't have to get as close to the UVB to reap the benefits. If you are mounting a T8 fixture on the inside of your tank then that bulb is going to be just fine. If you are resting the fixture on top of the mesh top, the T8 bulbs need to be replaced every 6 months or so, with the T5 you can get closer to 12 months with them. So in that case if you factor in the cost of a new bulb every 6 months (in some cases less) then the extra money up front for the T5 isn't so bad.

Repti-Sun 10.0 HO bulbs are the best and so are the Arcadia 10%.

 

[ajam1212]

As far as the T5/T8 debate goes, the T5's are a bit more expensive where the T8's can be used in any normal household fixture. The one benefit of the T5 over the T8 though is if you are putting it over the mesh top of your tank the T5 penetrates the mesh more and thus your dragon doesn't have to get as close to the UVB to reap the benefits. If you are mounting a T8 fixture on the inside of your tank then that bulb is going to be just fine. If you are resting the fixture on top of the mesh top, the T8 bulbs need to be replaced every 6 months or so, with the T5 you can get closer to 12 months with them. So in that case if you factor in the cost of a new bulb every 6 months (in some cases less) then the extra money up front for the T5 isn't so bad.

Repti-Sun 10.0 HO bulbs are the best and so are the Arcadia 10%.

Agree with you there.Subtle differences between the UK & US in husbandry. We tend to use timber enclosed VIVS with sliding glass fronted doors.So T8 fittings inside mounted are totally adequate for purpose.
My chameleon though is in a flexi open mesh viv and the tubes are mounted on top of the Viv externally. Here you really do notice the advantages of the T5 tube when having to penetrative the mesh.
I'm a contractor by trade & the T5 format is becoming common place now in work environments like offices etc.Mainly due to higher light wave output & energy efficiency.My beardies are fine with the T8 format & the tubes are still common place & popular over here.
Stupidly though due to the EU policy incandescent filament bulbs and 100wt spot bulbs are becoming increasingly difficult to buy of the shelf in stores.
So wether the T8 will go the same way (like the T12 non exsistant now) is another factor over here especially.

 

[PatsyB]

Agree with you there.Subtle differences between the UK & US in husbandry. We tend to use timber enclosed VIVS with sliding glass fronted doors.So T8 fittings inside mounted are totally adequate for purpose.
My chameleon though is in a flexi open mesh viv and the tubes are mounted on top of the Viv externally. Here you really do notice the advantages of the T5 tube when having to penetrative the mesh.
I'm a contractor by trade & the T5 format is becoming common place now in work environments like offices etc.Mainly due to higher light wave output & energy efficiency.My beardies are fine with the T8 format & the tubes are still common place & popular over here.
Stupidly though due to the EU policy incandescent filament bulbs and 100wt spot bulbs are becoming increasingly difficult to buy of the shelf in stores.
So wether the T8 will go the same way (like the T12 non exsistant now) is another factor over here especially.

Oh how I miss a 75 and 100w incandescent bulb! They stopped selling them over here a few years ago.

What kind of cham do you have? I have a veiled, he's going to be 1 in a few weeks.

 

[ajam1212]

[QUOTEsecond atsyB, post: 114992, member: 4295"]Oh how I miss a 75 and 100w incandescent bulb! They stopped selling them over here a few years ago.

What kind of cham do you have? I have a veiled, he's going to be 1 in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]
On my second male vieled he's about 10 months now and a joy to watch growing. Slowly building a bond with him. Chameleons are so narky, even when he's climbing on me at his demand.
Lost one last year to bone cancer.He was a big bruiser of a lad who got to six. Very lucky here as I have the university of the west of England vet school 10 miles away.So he had the best treatment he could of had.Some comfort in knowing the study of his illness & treatment will help other reptiles & chameleons. Still like losing a member of the family though.My little girl was so upset.
Trouble with reptiles is they're so rewarding with their individual characters they get addictive.
This is a good forum for people who have just got into reptiles.To many other forums seem to persecute newbies for asking advice.Im glad to see people arnt on here. Definitely one of the best forums I've come across in my many years of reptile ownership. Obviously the UK USA terms are a little different. I found this one through twitter. Don't usually comment on most forums as you offer advice then end up getting in a debate with some know all who's usually wrong. Don't mind offering advice on here as it's usually mirrored by others.Nice to see newbies can ask for advice without being ridiculed. Also
We're all still learning and open to advice no matter how long we've kept reptiles.Ive learnt you don't do locust over their.

 

[PatsyB]

[QUOTEsecond atsyB, post: 114992, member: 4295"]Oh how I miss a 75 and 100w incandescent bulb! They stopped selling them over here a few years ago.

What kind of cham do you have? I have a veiled, he's going to be 1 in a few weeks.

On my second male vieled he's about 10 months now and a joy to watch growing. Slowly building a bond with him. Chameleons are so narky, even when he's climbing on me at his demand.
Lost one last year to bone cancer.He was a big bruiser of a lad who got to six. Very lucky here as I have the university of the west of England vet school 10 miles away.So he had the best treatment he could of had.Some comfort in knowing the study of his illness & treatment will help other reptiles & chameleons. Still like losing a member of the family though.My little girl was so upset.
Trouble with reptiles is they're so rewarding with their individual characters they get addictive.
This is a good forum for people who have just got into reptiles.To many other forums seem to persecute newbies for asking advice.Im glad to see people arnt on here. Definitely one of the best forums I've come across in my many years of reptile ownership. Obviously the UK USA terms are a little different. I found this one through twitter. Don't usually comment on most forums as you offer advice then end up getting in a debate with some know all who's usually wrong. Don't mind offering advice on here as it's usually mirrored by others.Nice to see newbies can ask for advice without being ridiculed. Also
We're all still learning and open to advice no matter how long we've kept reptiles.Ive learnt you don't do locust over their.[/QUOTE]

This has always been a good and helpful forum. I would rather nicely help someone than attack them and have them leave and then there is a beardie out there that isn't getting the proper care that we could have helped. I'm part of a FB beardie page too where everyone is real helpful (along with a good chameleon one). There's some that you are just afraid to comment even when you know the right answer. Honestly when I made my post about the T5/T8 light I was afraid of what your response was going to be LOL!

Sorry about the loss of your chameleon. They are like loosing a family member. That's the hard thing with them is they can get sick overnight, heck they could fall and then be dead the next day they are so delicate. I love the personality difference between my cham and beardies. The beardies are so needy and love to be held and fussed over where the chameleon like you said can be "narky" with you even though he is the one that wanted to climb on you! My boy climbs up my arm and then all the sudden will hiss at me and head butt me, and I didn't even move!

 

[Hdrydr31]

[QUOTEsecond atsyB, post: 114992, member: 4295"]Oh how I miss a 75 and 100w incandescent bulb! They stopped selling them over here a few years ago.

What kind of cham do you have? I have a veiled, he's going to be 1 in a few weeks.

On my second male vieled he's about 10 months now and a joy to watch growing. Slowly building a bond with him. Chameleons are so narky, even when he's climbing on me at his demand.
Lost one last year to bone cancer.He was a big bruiser of a lad who got to six. Very lucky here as I have the university of the west of England vet school 10 miles away.So he had the best treatment he could of had.Some comfort in knowing the study of his illness & treatment will help other reptiles & chameleons. Still like losing a member of the family though.My little girl was so upset.
Trouble with reptiles is they're so rewarding with their individual characters they get addictive.
This is a good forum for people who have just got into reptiles.To many other forums seem to persecute newbies for asking advice.Im glad to see people arnt on here. Definitely one of the best forums I've come across in my many years of reptile ownership. Obviously the UK USA terms are a little different. I found this one through twitter. Don't usually comment on most forums as you offer advice then end up getting in a debate with some know all who's usually wrong. Don't mind offering advice on here as it's usually mirrored by others.Nice to see newbies can ask for advice without being ridiculed. Also
We're all still learning and open to advice no matter how long we've kept reptiles.Ive learnt you don't do locust over their.[/QUOTE]

I would have to agree with this forum I looked at a couple and they didn't seem very "open" and to me that's just rude. you would think that they would want new people that are more than capable of giving them a good home..I've never felt silly to ask anything here and everyone is soo nice. As in the end we all want our reptile friends to be happy, healthy critters. And when we can teach others even better!
Sorry to hear about your loss of your Veiled 6 is a good long life! I wanted to get a veiled I still think they are fascinating how they move and their eyes are awesome..love how they creep along lol But I wanted a critter that I could be really hands on interacting with them and they didn't seem to be that kind of reptile so I went the dragon route and I'm super happy.
If I had more room (technically I do but time wise) I would get another...the good thing about having just Izzy she gets loads of attention and she soaks it all up she loves to be out of her tank and hanging around on me or running around in a room I have all safe for her. She really loves taking care of the roaches with me as that usually means she gets to chase some down that I put out on the counter for her..
LOL when you said locust I knew you were from the UK.. lol Cheers!