Zilladragon23
Juvenile Dragon
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Warning! This may be disturbing to some.
This upsets me on so many levels, but I was thinking we should start this thread as a reminder of what not to do with your bearded dragon. If you come across any photos or video of beardies in a situation that you find unacceptable, please post it here and tell us what reason you have for disapproving of the behavior. I don't want to start any arguments, but I think this could be a good way to educate ourselves and each other.
I'll go first, lol
I posted this video for a couple of obvious reasons. First and foremost (I don't think I have to tell you guys, I am NOT an experienced dragon caretaker, nor am I any kind of expert. But I think most of you know that by now) I have learned so much in the past few weeks that I almost feel like I am experienced, but in reality, all I am experienced with is researching bearded dragons....Lmao!
In all seriousness, I would like to point out two dragons sharing a space. Though it seems like they have a very spacious setup, I would like to remind you all that Hermione and Khaleesi were in the living room (plenty of space for them to stay away from each other, obviously) and yet poor little Hermione was attacked by the bigger, bossier and more dominant Khaleesi. Despite just shedding her tail, she's got the scars to prove it. She's got a bite mark on her tail that will be there for the rest of her life. Fortunately, I was right there and able to grab Khaleesi and keep her from doing further damage. If I was not home, it's possible she could've lost a toe or limb and be seriously injured. I NEVER would've forgiven myself! I urge everyone who practices cohabitation to consider the consequences.
Second, I am sure some will agree that the size of this mouse is NOT okay for a beardie! Then, there might be someone who disagrees, that's fine. If you feel that you are caring for your animal and see nothing wrong with feeding adolescent mice with fully developed bones to your beloved pet, that is not my business to say you are wrong. Everything that I have read has stated that a bearded dragon should never have anything bigger than a pinkie (if it has ANY kind of hair, even fuzz, it is too developed) From EVERY. SINGLE. THING. I have read, dragons are not capable of digesting bones. I did have a seemingly successful breeder/handler on another forum who I have come to respect from what I have seen of his impressive beardies actually shocked me a little by telling me that they could digest fully developed bones. I had to ask the question, "If they can digest bones, why would anyone worry about meal worms or super worms causing digestive issues?" No, I really want to know. Bones vs worm shell... So, I'm hoping he doesn't think I'm trying to be sarcastic and answers my question. Or maybe one of you wonderful people can.
And finally, (aren't you glad that I'm almost done? ) the second dragon seems to be struggling to get the mouse incapacitated, so that she can try to eat it without being continually scratched in the face. That's just not an ideal dinner, imho
I just feel sorry for the poor girl, I'm sure she was hungry (though definitely not malnourished, more like overnourished! LOL) She wanted to eat and just couldn't get the darn thing down! To say that I felt worse for her than I did for the mouse is a big deal. I grew up with pet mice and rats and I have always had a soft spot for the critters
Ok, I'm done. I know it was long, but I definitely want to keep this going! Please post some things you feel are not good for our babies and tell us why. Even the newcomers may have stories to share (like me *wink wink) that may help someone to see a different perspective and make them more aware of the environment we raise these fantastic, beautiful, loveable creatures we were entrusted with.
Thanks in advance to anyone who participates, or just plain disagrees with me and wants me to see another view point!
Peace, Love and Dragons!
I'll go first, lol
I posted this video for a couple of obvious reasons. First and foremost (I don't think I have to tell you guys, I am NOT an experienced dragon caretaker, nor am I any kind of expert. But I think most of you know that by now) I have learned so much in the past few weeks that I almost feel like I am experienced, but in reality, all I am experienced with is researching bearded dragons....Lmao! In all seriousness, I would like to point out two dragons sharing a space. Though it seems like they have a very spacious setup, I would like to remind you all that Hermione and Khaleesi were in the living room (plenty of space for them to stay away from each other, obviously) and yet poor little Hermione was attacked by the bigger, bossier and more dominant Khaleesi. Despite just shedding her tail, she's got the scars to prove it. She's got a bite mark on her tail that will be there for the rest of her life. Fortunately, I was right there and able to grab Khaleesi and keep her from doing further damage. If I was not home, it's possible she could've lost a toe or limb and be seriously injured. I NEVER would've forgiven myself! I urge everyone who practices cohabitation to consider the consequences.
Second, I am sure some will agree that the size of this mouse is NOT okay for a beardie! Then, there might be someone who disagrees, that's fine. If you feel that you are caring for your animal and see nothing wrong with feeding adolescent mice with fully developed bones to your beloved pet, that is not my business to say you are wrong. Everything that I have read has stated that a bearded dragon should never have anything bigger than a pinkie (if it has ANY kind of hair, even fuzz, it is too developed) From EVERY. SINGLE. THING. I have read, dragons are not capable of digesting bones. I did have a seemingly successful breeder/handler on another forum who I have come to respect from what I have seen of his impressive beardies actually shocked me a little by telling me that they could digest fully developed bones. I had to ask the question, "If they can digest bones, why would anyone worry about meal worms or super worms causing digestive issues?" No, I really want to know. Bones vs worm shell... So, I'm hoping he doesn't think I'm trying to be sarcastic and answers my question. Or maybe one of you wonderful people can.
And finally, (aren't you glad that I'm almost done? ) the second dragon seems to be struggling to get the mouse incapacitated, so that she can try to eat it without being continually scratched in the face. That's just not an ideal dinner, imho
I just feel sorry for the poor girl, I'm sure she was hungry (though definitely not malnourished, more like overnourished! LOL) She wanted to eat and just couldn't get the darn thing down! To say that I felt worse for her than I did for the mouse is a big deal. I grew up with pet mice and rats and I have always had a soft spot for the critters Ok, I'm done. I know it was long, but I definitely want to keep this going! Please post some things you feel are not good for our babies and tell us why. Even the newcomers may have stories to share (like me *wink wink) that may help someone to see a different perspective and make them more aware of the environment we raise these fantastic, beautiful, loveable creatures we were entrusted with.
Thanks in advance to anyone who participates, or just plain disagrees with me and wants me to see another view point!
Peace, Love and Dragons!
