Help curved back

[Thompisarius]

My 5 year old bearded dragon that ive owned since it was a baby has for some time refused to eat and appears to have a curved back and seem to be in pain if anyone touches the curve.
Ive been to the vet with him and taken an x-ray as i was suspecting MBD but the vet said it showed no sign of it and nothing else for that matter.
The veterinary gave me some painkillers and told me to see if he started eating with it but with no success and i feel like i have to add where around i live there is no real exotic pet vets and it was an 2 hour ride just to get to someone with a little knowledge and i don't feel super comfortable with their judgment.
I have a Recommended Uv lightning and according to my moisture and thermometer a little on the hot side but within what it should be according to the internet in both the basking spot and cooler side.
I feed him mostly recommended green vegetables (avoiding spinach and such) and live or dried crickets with some vitamin supplement now and then.
Ive been noticing he has trouble turning to the right and walks a little wobbly.
I have been contemplating taking him back to the vet but i feel like they cant really help me and i am really worried when he wont eat as ive been force feeding him almost 2 weeks.
I will add some pictures of me lightly trying to bend the body to both to the right and left as there some resistance to the right.

 

[Krystal0]

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[Sadie]

My 5 year old bearded dragon that ive owned since it was a baby has for some time refused to eat and appears to have a curved back and seem to be in pain if anyone touches the curve.
Ive been to the vet with him and taken an x-ray as i was suspecting MBD but the vet said it showed no sign of it and nothing else for that matter.
The veterinary gave me some painkillers and told me to see if he started eating with it but with no success and i feel like i have to add where around i live there is no real exotic pet vets and it was an 2 hour ride just to get to someone with a little knowledge and i don't feel super comfortable with their judgment.
I have a Recommended Uv lightning and according to my moisture and thermometer a little on the hot side but within what it should be according to the internet in both the basking spot and cooler side.
I feed him mostly recommended green vegetables (avoiding spinach and such) and live or dried crickets with some vitamin supplement now and then.
Ive been noticing he has trouble turning to the right and walks a little wobbly.
I have been contemplating taking him back to the vet but i feel like they cant really help me and i am really worried when he wont eat as ive been force feeding him almost 2 weeks.
I will add some pictures of me lightly trying to bend the body to both to the right and left as there some resistance to the right.

What your describing is MBD and neurological issues --- please tell me what your using for a UVB? Basking temps are what are how are you taking them? NO coils for a UVB they are inadequate and cause all kinds of health issues --- NO stick ons for basking temps

 

[Krystal0]

What your describing is MBD and neurological issues --- please tell me what your using for a UVB? Basking temps are what are how are you taking them? NO coils for a UVB they are inadequate and cause all kinds of health issues --- NO stick ons for basking temps

I am pretty sure your bd is fine & no vet

 

[Thompisarius]

What your describing is MBD and neurological issues --- please tell me what your using for a UVB? Basking temps are what are how are you taking them? NO coils for a UVB they are inadequate and cause all kinds of health issues --- NO stick ons for basking temps

Yea i cant actually remember what UV (UVB?) light i use right now as i dont have have the package left does it say if i remove it from the lamp?
But i remember it was recommended for bearded dragons when i bought it and ive been changing it every year no coils.
My thermos says lucky reptile and arent sticks but its actually morning right now so the lamps arent on as i am writing this and i don't remember exactly what the temperatures/humidity is but last i checked it was a within range of recommended if a little on the hotter side.

 

[Thompisarius]

I am pretty sure your bd is fine & no vet

I really hope thats true but somehow i doubt it as its his first time he refused to eat and the fact hes wobbly and actually managed to fall on his back now 5 times on a prop i have had in his terrarium which ive removed now and also seems to be in pain when you touch hes back.

 

[Sadie]

I really hope thats true but somehow i doubt it as its his first time he refused to eat and the fact hes wobbly and actually managed to fall on his back now 5 times on a prop i have had in his terrarium which ive removed now and also seems to be in pain when you touch hes back.

He has hurt himself falling --- please get the decor pieces lower to the floor so hes not falling anymore and set up some soft blankets around that area -- look on the bulb its going to tell you brand and bulb of the UVB ----- this is extremely important ----- in the mean time please make a vet appointment ASAP---- here is website to find a reptile vet in your area www.arav.org
As I thought before hes really sick ---- MBD and neurological issues w/ him falling ---- the vet should do a X ray to see what is going on w/ the spine --- calcium level as well -- if hes in pain they should give some pain killers as well - but please tell me the UVB your using so we can get it set up correctly

 

[Thompisarius]

He has hurt himself falling --- please get the decor pieces lower to the floor so hes not falling anymore and set up some soft blankets around that area -- look on the bulb its going to tell you brand and bulb of the UVB ----- this is extremely important ----- in the mean time please make a vet appointment ASAP---- here is website to find a reptile vet in your area www.arav.org
As I thought before hes really sick ---- MBD and neurological issues w/ him falling ---- the vet should do a X ray to see what is going on w/ the spine --- calcium level as well -- if hes in pain they should give some pain killers as well - but please tell me the UVB your using so we can get it set up correctly

Yea but the thing is he started falling after he stopped eating and the fall isn't really that high so i do not think its the cause as its not the fall itself i am worried about and more the fact hes on his back.
The decor is now removed as ive been lucky enough to be home every time he managed to get on his back and have no idea what would happen if i was not i will add a picture of the decor so you can se the height it just feels kinda bad as its his favorite basking spot.
I checked around on the lamp and its says its a exo terra repti glo 10.0 with 40W not really sure what to look for so i hope that is enough information to give you an idea.
I am going to try getting time to get to the last vet i had and maybe try getting some sort of blood test or something i dont know im no vet and its the only thing i can think of.
The xrays we took the first time didn't really show any signs of even early MBD according to the vet and while he was a little crooked in the picture he just said there a lot of air there so he was unsure and according to him he sent the pictures to an from how i understand it a forum or something for vets to have others look at them and would contact me if he heard anything but ive gotten no reply.
He did give me some painkillers to check if he wanted to eat while on them not sure how potent it is but at least he have some already.
And the site you sent said that the nearest exotic pet vet is like 12-15 hours car ride to get to.
Do not your exotic pet sick in northern Sweden i guess.

 

[Sadie]

Yea but the thing is he started falling after he stopped eating and the fall isn't really that high so i do not think its the cause as its not the fall itself i am worried about and more the fact hes on his back.
The decor is now removed as ive been lucky enough to be home every time he managed to get on his back and have no idea what would happen if i was not i will add a picture of the decor so you can se the height it just feels kinda bad as its his favorite basking spot.
I checked around on the lamp and its says its a exo terra repti glo 10.0 with 40W not really sure what to look for so i hope that is enough information to give you an idea.
I am going to try getting time to get to the last vet i had and maybe try getting some sort of blood test or something i dont know im no vet and its the only thing i can think of.
The xrays we took the first time didn't really show any signs of even early MBD according to the vet and while he was a little crooked in the picture he just said there a lot of air there so he was unsure and according to him he sent the pictures to an from how i understand it a forum or something for vets to have others look at them and would contact me if he heard anything but ive gotten no reply.
He did give me some painkillers to check if he wanted to eat while on them not sure how potent it is but at least he have some already.
And the site you sent said that the nearest exotic pet vet is like 12-15 hours car ride to get to.
Do not your exotic pet sick in northern Sweden i guess.

Ok I can post a website for where you are for vets later-- I am not home now don't have access- please ditch the repti glo bulb they are a terrible bulb---- your dragon is either having neurological issues or a ear infection- you need to get him to the vet to see what is going on for him to be constantly flipping on his back- please replace the repti glo w/ a Arcadia pro T 5 w/ a Arcadia 12% bulb ASAP! Get a bright white basking bulb that keeps your temps 95-100 taken w/ a digital probe thermometer are you in Sweden?

 

[Sadie]

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[Thompisarius]

Ok I can post a website for where you are for vets later-- I am not home now don't have access- please ditch the repti glo bulb they are a terrible bulb---- your dragon is either having neurological issues or a ear infection- you need to get him to the vet to see what is going on for him to be constantly flipping on his back- please replace the repti glo w/ a Arcadia pro T 5 w/ a Arcadia 12% bulb ASAP! Get a bright white basking bulb that keeps your temps 95-100 taken w/ a digital probe thermometer are you in Sweden?

Oh okay i will search around the pet stores to see if i can find the UV light you recommend but i get a feeling i will have to order one there is almost only cat/dog things where i live thanks for the tip.
Also right now i use 2 ceramic bulbs for heating one small for the cooler side and a big for the basking spot and i wonder if they are any good?
Yea i live in northern Sweden.
Also the 2 sites you listed on your last post did sadly not really help i cant even press on Sweden on the herp veterinarians link and the arav site-ym one just shows vets in southern Sweden like 10+ hour car drive with other words.

 

[Sadie]

Oh okay i will search around the pet stores to see if i can find the UV light you recommend but i get a feeling i will have to order one there is almost only cat/dog things where i live thanks for the tip.
Also right now i use 2 ceramic bulbs for heating one small for the cooler side and a big for the basking spot and i wonder if they are any good?
Yea i live in northern Sweden.
Also the 2 sites you listed on your last post did sadly not really help i cant even press on Sweden on the herp veterinarians link and the arav site-ym one just shows vets in southern Sweden like 10+ hour car drive with other words.

https://arav.site-ym.com/search/custom.asp?id=3661 Use this one and select country and fill out the miles town etc see if it brings anything this one only brought up the southern end of Sweden ? You really need to find a vet -- I would start making some calls around your area to vets to see if they know of anyone closer to you that can possible look at him --
You want a bright white basking bulb the ceramic bulb your using are what? Are they heat emitters and produce no light or what? Post a pic of the whole tank w/ lighting so I can see -- do you have the boxes for those bulbs or go on line and show me---------- you want something like this for basking

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