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Empty Tank Syndrome

Red Ink AUS

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Don't you just hate it when you get that lol. I know I've got it and I'm trying my hardest to fight it.
 

Red Ink AUS

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LOL, I hear that. That's why I'm fighting so hard not to fill the empty space i have and only fill them with target species.
 

crypticdragons

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im itching so badly to get a 1.3 group of black heads (v. t. tristis) that i can barely stand it, but unfortunately i dont forsee having the space to build the tank they would need.
 

Red Ink AUS

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I belive V.t.orientalis (or is it the other way around :-\, I'll get back to you on that one) can tolerate higher humidity levels and temperate climates. They may do well when you move down south in a large outdoor aviary. It still have to be fairly big though, just something to consider if you really want to scratch that itch lol. I have mates that keep large varanids outdoors and simply have large heat panels/flood lights in the enclosures if and when they need a bit of extra warmth.
 

beardielover17

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crypticdragons said:
actually i hate 'lack of space syndrome' far more.
yea im suffering from a major case of that...ive got a 3 foot rhino iggy that is beggin to come back home plus frank is lookin a lil lonely in his cage without a female companion
 

Red Ink AUS

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crypticdragons said:
im itching so badly to get a 1.3 group of black heads (v. t. tristis) that i can barely stand it, but unfortunately i dont forsee having the space to build the tank they would need.

Just consulted my bibles Bri,

V.t.orientalis is the "non-blackhead form" it is commonly found on the eastern part of the range in QLD. Avg humidity up there 60-70%. It is commonly refered to as the freckled monitor down here as an alternative name to "black-head" which is V.t.tritis.

Enclosure taken from "keeping and breeding Australian Lizards" monitor section authors Grant Husband, Matthew Bonnet.

Minimum Enclosure size for v.t.tristis/orientalis 100cm x 60cm x 100cm. Temps 40-50oC on the hot side. UV not needed but beneficial.
Substrate sand or soil. Plenty of vertical hide and climbing branches to increase enclosure usability. "Ackie stack" beneficial under the basking lights.

So realistically if you wanted to keep a trio, I think you can get away with all three in a 5' x 3' x 5' enclosure. Just make sure you mark out that space already in your new house lol.
 

crypticdragons

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Red Ink AUS said:
crypticdragons said:
im itching so badly to get a 1.3 group of black heads (v. t. tristis) that i can barely stand it, but unfortunately i dont forsee having the space to build the tank they would need.

Just consulted my bibles Bri,

V.t.orientalis is the "non-blackhead form" it ic commonly found on the eastern part of the range in QLD. Avg humidity up there 60-70%. It is commonly refered to as the freckled monitor down here as an alternative name to "black-head" which is V.t.tritis.

Enclosure taken from "keeping and breeding Australian Lizards" monitor section authors Grant Husband, Matthew Bonnet.

Minimum Enclosure size for v.t.tristis/orientalis 100cm x 60cm x 100cm. Temps 40-50oC on the hot side. UV not needed but beneficial.
Substrate sand or soil. Plenty of vertical hide and climbing branches to increase enlosure usability. "Ackie stack" beneficial under the basking lights.

So realistically if you wanted to keep a trio, I think you can get away with all three in a 5' x 3' x 5' enclosure. Just make sure you mark out that space already in your new house lol.

francis i dont think my wife likes you very much at the moment lmao.
 

Red Ink AUS

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Aww but monitors are so cute, tail whips are a sign of love, it's like a love tap ::). lol
 

crypticdragons

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Red Ink AUS said:
Aww but monitors are so cute, tail whips are a sign of love, it's like a love tap ::). lol
I doubt she would care about the bites, claw cuts, and tail whips, what she cares about is more reptiles lol. She is adamantly against it.
 

Red Ink AUS

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Same boat mate, I soooo want to get back to my dwarf varanids but the missus says there's no more vacancy in the in lol. Atleast she's agreeing to the gecko colony is suppose.
 

zebraflavencs

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Sooooo y'all are gonna dislike me further... I have several empties... And am planning to someday get up my gecko condo....Ah well... in for a penny, all there for the pound.
Janie
 
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