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Dragon Handling

Hossinn

Hatchling Dragon
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52
Hello,

We've had our dragon for 3 weeks, and he is 12 weeks old. We were off to a slightly rough start because he was eating almost nothing for the first 4-5 days we had him. Now he seems to be eating fairly regularly (example: 15-25 dubias 3x/day).

Our goal for these first weeks has been to allow him to become comfortable in his new surroundings, so we handled him very little. We now want to start handling him more so he can get comfortable with human touch. I have a few questions:

- If we only try and scoop him up from underneath, he will almost always run away, so we end up having to "chase" him around his enclosure. Even though it's not the preferred way, it seems less stressful for him if we slowly put our hand over him, and wrap our fingers underneath his body for support, when we pick him up. Does this sound okay, or is there a better way?

- Once we pick him up, we generally sit on the bed and hold him gently, or open our hand and let him stand on our hand, or put him on our chest and let him relax. He is sometimes opening his mouth, as if he is going to bite, but he has not bitten yet. To minimize stress, we've only been holding him for 5 minutes max 2-3x/day. Does this sound okay, or is there a better way?

- Today, my daughter and I each held him one time each. This afternoon, I put some water on my finger to try and put a drop on his nose because I want to make sure he is hydrated (he's eating some kale, but isn't really eating the apple, carrots, strawberry, etc. that we are putting in his salad), and he ran from me, then turned toward me, opened his mouth, and flared his beard. I basically immediately gave in, closed his enclosure and left. Does this sound normal, or is there a better way?

I'm open to any strategies anybody might have to make the transition to being a hand-held pet, as low-stress, and easy as possible, for all involved.

Thank you.
 

Sadie

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Hello,

We've had our dragon for 3 weeks, and he is 12 weeks old. We were off to a slightly rough start because he was eating almost nothing for the first 4-5 days we had him. Now he seems to be eating fairly regularly (example: 15-25 dubias 3x/day).

Our goal for these first weeks has been to allow him to become comfortable in his new surroundings, so we handled him very little. We now want to start handling him more so he can get comfortable with human touch. I have a few questions:

- If we only try and scoop him up from underneath, he will almost always run away, so we end up having to "chase" him around his enclosure. Even though it's not the preferred way, it seems less stressful for him if we slowly put our hand over him, and wrap our fingers underneath his body for support, when we pick him up. Does this sound okay, or is there a better way?

- Once we pick him up, we generally sit on the bed and hold him gently, or open our hand and let him stand on our hand, or put him on our chest and let him relax. He is sometimes opening his mouth, as if he is going to bite, but he has not bitten yet. To minimize stress, we've only been holding him for 5 minutes max 2-3x/day. Does this sound okay, or is there a better way?

- Today, my daughter and I each held him one time each. This afternoon, I put some water on my finger to try and put a drop on his nose because I want to make sure he is hydrated (he's eating some kale, but isn't really eating the apple, carrots, strawberry, etc. that we are putting in his salad), and he ran from me, then turned toward me, opened his mouth, and flared his beard. I basically immediately gave in, closed his enclosure and left. Does this sound normal, or is there a better way?

I'm open to any strategies anybody might have to make the transition to being a hand-held pet, as low-stress, and easy as possible, for all involved.

Thank you.
Put a piece of clothing or fleece blanket in the tank -something w/ your smell on it -- he needs to settle in it may take awhile -- work w/ him every day putting your hands in the tank --- approach from the side not over head he will think your a predator -- that is normal behavior for them to run hiss etc - hes a little guy in a big world -- he needs to learn to trust you -- hand feed every morning some BSFL like a few of them maybe try some small super worms or medium depending on how big he is -- then take your BSFL and add as many as you want to his salad bowl -- they are a great staple feeder for babies -- DO NOT DUST them --- do this as routine every morning -- you want him eating some of those salads -- I would use a mixture of greens like kale collard turnip --- maybe add some squash cut up bite size pieces and some strawberry -- limit your fruits tho -- its a trust and patient thing -- too me months to get mine tamed down -- but I worked w/ him every day and talked to him -- I held him in the tank for a few minutes at a time -- slowly bringing him out of the tank but standing at the tank -- and only holding for a few minutes at a time -- he will get there just be patient -- and work on getting him to eat his salads -- your worms and such will help that along --- the movement will get him to the bowl
 

Emilia Thuet

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a lot of times people say don’t pick him up from above because he may think it’s a prey and run away, but if he isn’t showing any stress than I don’t see a problem, my beardie Starbucks was fine when being picked up from above when he was a baby too. Some other great tips like Sadie said but something that smells like you in his tank like a lightly worn shirt or something along those lines. Another thing that helped Starbucks with being handled because I also hand him since he was about a month old, I would feed him outside of his tank in a small container, because he was too lazy to hunt . You can do the same with your little guy and but a few bugs in with him at a time in a container. This will help him register you and handling time with food and make him much more comfortable. Starbucks even as a 1 month old never had a problem with being handled. Hope this was helpful
 

Skybug

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I agree with emilia, i had a top opening enclosure when i got my baby beardie, she was never threatened by approaching from the top, you may have to get bit once or twice, but DO NOT give up and let him “win” beardies are very smart and they’ll learn all he has to do is open his mouth and he’ll get his way, you dont want to get bit by an adult beardie, id rather get bit by my tokay gecko than my bearded dragon, deploy some tough love and i think he’ll turn around :)
 

Hossinn

Hatchling Dragon
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Well, he bit me this morning. There was absolutely NO pain involved, but it was still unpleasant that he did that. He doesn't seem phased if we put our hand in or around him. He squirms when being picked up, but then we sit down and he's seems relatively relaxed. If a finger is in front of him, he constantly opens his mouth wide, and now is biting when he gets a chance.

We've only been holding him for 4 days or so, after having him for 3 weeks. Is this common behavior, while he gets comfortable with us, or is it possible we have a bitey dragon? We are so looking forward to having a fun dragon companion, and can certainly continue being patient, but there's a little bit of concern coming into my mind that our dragon is the biting type...
 

Sadie

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Well, he bit me this morning. There was absolutely NO pain involved, but it was still unpleasant that he did that. He doesn't seem phased if we put our hand in or around him. He squirms when being picked up, but then we sit down and he's seems relatively relaxed. If a finger is in front of him, he constantly opens his mouth wide, and now is biting when he gets a chance.

We've only been holding him for 4 days or so, after having him for 3 weeks. Is this common behavior, while he gets comfortable with us, or is it possible we have a bitey dragon? We are so looking forward to having a fun dragon companion, and can certainly continue being patient, but there's a little bit of concern coming into my mind that our dragon is the biting type...
So was mine he eventually quit
 

Emilia Thuet

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Well, he bit me this morning. There was absolutely NO pain involved, but it was still unpleasant that he did that. He doesn't seem phased if we put our hand in or around him. He squirms when being picked up, but then we sit down and he's seems relatively relaxed. If a finger is in front of him, he constantly opens his mouth wide, and now is biting when he gets a chance.

We've only been holding him for 4 days or so, after having him for 3 weeks. Is this common behavior, while he gets comfortable with us, or is it possible we have a bitey dragon? We are so looking forward to having a fun dragon companion, and can certainly continue being patient, but there's a little bit of concern coming into my mind that our dragon is the biting type...
It’s the terrible twos of the bearded dragons, it will definitely go away eventually he’s just being a little spoiled. Is he hissing or puffing his beard out before he bites you or his he looking at your finger like a delicious snake? Because if it’s the later that means he’s hungry and you can just feed him more. Again try hand feeding him or feeding him in a different container so he gets comfortable with you by connecting you with food.
 

Hossinn

Hatchling Dragon
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I don't THINK he's hissing, although I heard something that may have been a hiss, but he is puffing his beard slightly. He seems spoiled, not hungry.

I'm assuming there's not much else we can do. I mean he's reptile. It's not like we can "train" him to not bite, it's just a matter of him becoming more comfortable, and realizing we are not his predator, right?

We've been holding him for short stints (~5 minutes at a time) 4-5x/day. Does this sounds like too much, or okay?
 

Sadie

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I don't THINK he's hissing, although I heard something that may have been a hiss, but he is puffing his beard slightly. He seems spoiled, not hungry.

I'm assuming there's not much else we can do. I mean he's reptile. It's not like we can "train" him to not bite, it's just a matter of him becoming more comfortable, and realizing we are not his predator, right?

We've been holding him for short stints (~5 minutes at a time) 4-5x/day. Does this sounds like too much, or okay?
Yes trust is a big thing- I think your doing good-- he will eventually come around
 
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